tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post404847188917519304..comments2024-03-26T15:37:57.556-07:00Comments on Idiot Tracker: Revkin vs Revkin: the final battleTheTrackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10011829472333355911noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-85578079943129491042012-01-04T13:42:09.680-08:002012-01-04T13:42:09.680-08:00RC has a pretty good post on the methane issue:
h...RC has a pretty good post on the methane issue:<br /><br />http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/01/much-ado-about-methaneRattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-14659784053528111792012-01-01T14:33:05.207-08:002012-01-01T14:33:05.207-08:00So is it still 'Apocalypse Not'?So is it still 'Apocalypse Not'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-27404326703892415072011-12-31T05:25:27.938-08:002011-12-31T05:25:27.938-08:00The platform he provides to the fan club of denier...<b>The platform he provides to the fan club of deniers, who come in a variety of flavors, distracting and delaying at best, is not good.</b><br /><br />Deniers are never going to lack for platforms. Nor is Dmitrenko a denier or anything like that. Revkin is not quite as worried as you and I are, but that doesn't make him an enemy of the planet. We should look for commonalities rather than differences. <br /><br />Look at the recent Pew Poll (http://theidiottracker.blogspot.com/2011/12/pew-poll-shows-climate-denial-in.html) -- the deniers are losing the argument with their own Republican base. We need to win that middle. The more worried you are, the more you should be thinking about how we build a consensus for action.TheTrackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10011829472333355911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-18202568943425022572011-12-30T16:28:37.374-08:002011-12-30T16:28:37.374-08:00Silly Susan. You never have figured out the the m...Silly Susan. You never have figured out the the most obvious impetus to oppose you people is your desire to censor. Gets our dander up, you know. Then we have to read thousands of emails from your "Team" describing efforts to hide data, prevent papers from being published, and avoid FOIA requests. Your credibility is gone and your likability never existed.Mike Mangannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-12505871226969210532011-12-30T04:56:11.416-08:002011-12-30T04:56:11.416-08:00Ho boy, Dmitrenko. Dr. Revkin (Dr. is honorary, p...Ho boy, Dmitrenko. Dr. Revkin (Dr. is honorary, pace Pace U) has found somebody respectable to support his view that we don't need to be as worried as we are. The platform he provides to the fan club of deniers, who come in a variety of flavors, distracting and delaying at best, is not good. He seems to have bought the phony skeptic PR meme that those who find real-time developments exceed the worst predictions are part of the problem.<br /><br />We should all be shouting from the rooftops: pay attention, it's time to act. I don't think being quiet and polite is helpful, that's what the fossil fuel and anti-regulatory cohorts, "they're all socialists", "science is a religion", "the hockey stick is evil, hide your eyes", etc. etc. clubs want, for us all to shut up. Unfortunately, they have found a way to persuade "reasonable people" to join the circular firing squad. As noted, it is hard to dislike him, but I think among those who are not being helpful are those who promote the idea that the middle is way to the right of center. That's how the environment has disappeared completely from all sides of the debate over our future.<br /><br />The "middle" is really the planet, not any of us and its vote is becoming quite clear. Time to stop exploiting and find a way to share (of course: that makes me a communist, hah!)<br />(Susan Anderson)susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829151452002682271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6718772691289114123.post-11140489461693423012011-12-29T06:39:04.109-08:002011-12-29T06:39:04.109-08:00I wish it were only a trilogy. You've stumbled...I wish it were only a trilogy. You've stumbled on the reality that Dot Earth is journalism, revealed. As with science, journalism is a journey. The old 20th century notion of the page-one story or nightly news report definitively distilling the world into sound bites is history. My blog provides an over-the-shoulder view of my inquiry on tough issues. As it happens, Igor Dmitrenko has strongly disputed the S&S interpretation of his paper. There's an update on that post (and probably yet another piece coming). <br /><br />Check the following link for Dmitrenko's initial response. There's more from him after the new year. <br />http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/leaders-of-arctic-methane-project-clarify-climate-concerns/Andrew Revkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04409256871615098615noreply@blogger.com